Just one more thing......
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i have a question for jw's.
i have a problem with a jw .
its been going on for a year now.
Just one more thing......
Personal information removed
i have a question for jw's.
i have a problem with a jw .
its been going on for a year now.
Don't worry about posting back. I won't be back here again. I will stop asking other people about things i already know in my heart. Just because you deleted those post about someone telling me I'm not strong enough to kick her butt and because so i don't deserve my husband, then the "stirring the pot" crap, doesn't mean crap. I saw them and now I know how the JW religion is. I will stick to mine. I will not get revenge on her just because I can't catch the biotch to kick her butt! That is the inevitable i was speaking of in my earlier post. She will get it kicked! She has and continues to keep my life upside down. Me and my husband do not need counseling! we worked it all out! He is not hiding anything from me and after the way she became obsessive toward him, threatened him, and so much more he would never even speak to her again like i said before, it was an accident he answered the phone. and he still under estimated me when he not only allowed me to tape his confession the first time, even tho he didn't see it I showed him the moment he was done. then he watched me tape everyone in the future. you would have to know more about what this women done to understand that and since I'm not coming back to you people for advice you won't know what I'm talking about. then he is to stupid to know I'm also taping the second by second confession he gave me even knowing i set her up over and over last year when i taped every phone convo the biotch and i had. I will not ever let anyone run over me again and i came to this site to ask about your religion and i found myself defending myself again. I have been ripped apart by a site called Topix and I will never allow anyone to make me feel like i was or am the one doing the wrong. I have stayed true to myself and my religion. now after i do come face to face with her someday when she will slip up and forget who's husband she screwed i will beat the crap out of her! that will happen if it takes the rest of my life! then i will have something to confess and ask forgiveness for but for now i don't! my revenge will be kicking her A$$ as the other women so eloquently put it. I hold all cards in this situation with all the taping i have done. and before you start yelling that is illegal then look up the law, i live in Arkansas and as long as i didn't cross state line's then only one of the people being tapped has to know and that can be the one doing the taping, so it is legal and will stand up in a court of law or for what ever else i might want to use it for. maybe a web site with all the audio on it? humm thanks guys as i would not have thought about that one if i had not came here! I am considering , and laugh if you want but look it up first, suing for alienation of affection. Small claims is topped at $5000 but i only want a check for $20 a week till its paid. that is to remind her every time she writes it out what she did. She can live her double life, but these are 3 small towns , close together and if she can walk into her church and think no one knows what she has did and is doing then she is just as crazy as i said she was. but i am crazier in the point NO ONE MESSES WITH MY FAMILY! Now a restraining order could interfere with the butt kicking so no I'm not doing that. She keeps it up and the kicking will just be worse.
There is someone on here who messaged me and i told that person quite alot. so who ever it is knows more than you all do. I won't make a mistake again.
So far well to all you JW's and all the advice and all the criticism! I swear i believe i am the only person that does not tear other people down when they have did nothing........yet! maybe all of you who wrote that crap needs to take a good look at you and your God and ask "what would Jesus do?"..........see i don't even know if you believe in Jesus or not. Maybe that is why she is the way she is, she has nothing to live for but married men! Thank you all for you so called help! It was just another wonderful experience to add to my many. And to the women i told the stuff to i don't care if you share it with "these" people. I'm sure it went through private messaging already anyways.
bye,
Shelly
i have a question for jw's.
i have a problem with a jw .
its been going on for a year now.
Sorry one more thing, would having all conversations with her on tape be a plus? as i do. i have my husband confessing last year and i have him totally confessing with every detail a few weeks ago. with her i have about the same, except she says she did nothing wrong after telling and admitting to everything? I'll explain more tomorrow.
i have a question for jw's.
i have a problem with a jw .
its been going on for a year now.
I also wanted to say that before i go for the night that on most of the reply's i have not gave you the whole story. that was what i was attempting to do by responding to each. tomorrow night things will be totally different in your minds. just for the "stiring" the pot. when i talked to her was back when i first found out, last year. the last time i talked to her was when she was calling my husbands phone about 2 weeks ago while we were still on the road. so i'm not stiring the pot , she is and another women who is nuts as well. and i do have balls. i just can't catch her, she runs from me.
If anyone is from Paragould Arkansas area please let me know as you may know her.
i have a question for jw's.
i have a problem with a jw .
its been going on for a year now.
I fell asleep...sorry. I will finish all my replies tomorrow night.
i have a question for jw's.
i have a problem with a jw .
its been going on for a year now.
I would like to use my real first name, it is Shelly.
My church would say ignore and pray for her. I have and its not working!!!You might want a back up plan then.
I am not sure what jurisdiction you are in but here in the UK restraining orders can and do work.
Have you approached the local elders his church ?
Regards
David
I live in Arkansas of the United States. Here a restraining order usually only helps after someone is hurt. They rarely give them out for something like this. actually i believe they would laugh at me. Now this is not the way it is all over the US but it is the way it works around here. Besides a restraining order might go both ways, then it would stop me from what will be the inevitable which i will explain in response to another reply.
i have a question for jw's.
i have a problem with a jw .
its been going on for a year now.
just by chance....do you have her address?........he he.....da ninja......whooooooooooooooooosh
yes I do. I have found everything i believe there is out there about this person. would you please pm me and tell me why you want it? I'm still unsure about what to do. Maybe if i post it and other JW's write her and tell her what she did was wrong that might make her understand??? I don't know, I'm lost at this point and tonight I'm going to answer each post and try to get most of the story out there to your guys so you can give me replies with knowing more. I was going to send her a letter but i was afraid her son might read it if he was to get the mail first from curiosity. Like i said I don't want to hurt a child.
i have a question for jw's.
i have a problem with a jw .
its been going on for a year now.
To All,
The last few days I've been struggling with if I tell her church what she has did it will get her kicked out. I am a Christian, maybe not a JW but I believe in all. To me removing her from a church would make me feel like I sinned. That would be the ONLY wrong thing I have done in this whole "MESS". I know she created it but am I the one that should punish her? I know if she truly believed in sin and God she would go and find another church to take her in. But still I'm not sure I should be the one to get her in trouble with her church. My church would not kick me out. My preacher would talk to me and explain that what i have done is wrong and that i should apologize to the women and her family I wronged and tell the truth. Instead of lies to try and break up the family as well as hurt them more. JW's do things different than we do. I'm missionary Baptist. I believe once saved always saved and just ask forgiveness from God and he will grant it. I'm not saying i can go out and premeditate a sin like this women did for 7 years before they did sin.(8 now) She made up lies about her car being broken to get him to her house, borrowed a drill and said he had to come to her home to get it, things like that to me were premeditation to get him in the place where it could happen. Again I AM NOT TAKING UP FOR WHAT MY HUSBAND DID. but if he had not been at her house things may have been different. She even hit on him when she was married. (before, during and after).
I would like to also clear up that i said no one else in her family was JW's. I was wrong. My husband said her mother and one of her many brother's were also JW's. He brother knows her side of things, but her mother doesn't. Am I the one to tell them by letting the church know? Even after all the things she has said about me since I found out. I have defended myself till i can't defend anymore. I almost committed suicide twice over all of this. But God got me through it and its been a very long road for me this last year. I pulled out every stop i could find to make my husband understand what he did to me. When he finally understood how i felt and stopped thinking about how he felt for what he did in the eye's of God then is when he told me everything in detail and that was when i could truly believe him and trust again. He's my husband and we have been together since we were 14 and him 15 years old and married when i was 18. He is all I know. He is my best friend. He is my everything. I could not just throw all that away so i fought so hard that at times i just hit rock bottom and wanted to end it so bad. God pulled me through. I'm sure even tho she has led this double life she is still his child. The bible says not to make his children stray from him. Would this be the same thing as me telling what she did to her church? I'm sorry i don't know about your religion and belief's. All I want is for her to understand what she did was wrong and what she continues to do is wrong. He has told her many, many times he used her and doesn't want anything else to do with her. (I know that is bad in him) but i also told her the same thing and i get in reply from her "he will be with me when your daughter graduate's. he's only there for the kids." she just doesn't get it. is it possible in your religion for the head of the church (pastor) to just talk to her and maybe she will understand? in my heart i know that she is obsessed with my husband and i doubt talking to her by anyone will help but I'm not sure either that kicking her out of church is the answer, away from God , is the right thing to do. or maybe it is, maybe it would open her eyes, maybe it would take something that big to make her wake up?
as far as the restraining order. I'm not going to go that far because as long as she calls my husband then I know she is still after him. i can trust him enough to know he won't answer or if he does without knowing its her he will not talk to her, an if he does it will only be the same old, same old, "leave us alone". She won't call me anymore now that he has told me details of their "encounter" . I trust my husband now, i have to in order to keep our marriage the way it is now. The man I married no longer exist. I now have a loving husband who kisses me every time i walk by him and says to me he loves me at least 20 times a day. He holds me when we sleep and wont let go. I really believe he loves me more now than he ever has, not to take away from what we had before she came in the picture. just that he saw how hard i fought for him and that made him understand how much i loved and love him. I won't let anyone take away my husband and my best friend. I would be lost and then it would be possible i would commit suicide. God and my believe that if i did then i would never go to heaven. I have people there waiting on me that i would never be with again and i would burn in hell. So that is what has stopped me all these times. but somehow i have to stop her. she has destroyed so many families before she knew my husband, and while she knew him and I'm afraid once she understands its over with him she will find another married man and destroy more lives. I hate to say this but in factory's women who do what she does is called a "factory ho". how can she live your religion and do the things she has done for 8 years now that i know of. plus she has a son. i believe he is like 14.(an severl more all with different men) what kind of example is she sitting for him and what would it do to him if she was kicked out of the church? I don't want to hurt a child. even tho she has tore mine up and messed up their lives forever. I'm just not like her. would i be bowing down to her level if i sent this letter to the church? I'm so so confused!!! All I know is that as long as she calls then i know she still thinks she has a chance with my husband. and who knows what she will do next. The lies she has told on me i can handle but children are different and if they get back to them she could cause my children to stray from me. She has already caused them to act out in ways that are sin. Both has been baptized and in my religion once baptized and except God/Jesus then your a child of God forever and if you sin then you just ask for forgiveness. Soon as we got home from being on the road trucking my son straightened up, but my daughter is so angry. She was OK till this women started things up again. I have to do something to stop her but what is the right thing to do? a restraining is just a piece of paper, it won't make her change her mind about going after my husband because if the consequences from God are not enough then what would a piece of paper do? Please , if you can, give me so more advice. I'm more confused than ever now. I'm struggling so bad. My church would say ignore and pray for her. I have and its not working!!!
please help
hurt
i have a question for jw's.
i have a problem with a jw .
its been going on for a year now.
Thank you all for your replies. In my heart i felt it was against JW religion but wanted to ask first as ever since i found out I've wanted to send her church a letter because when my husband confessed the first time and i called her she said "I done nothing wrong. If you would have took care of him then i would not have had to." I spoke to her many times since then just trying to get answer's. i was never mean and even told her that i blamed my husband more but she should have said no and not offered and chased him for so long, Then when she called again this last time my husband answered the phone without looking at the caller ID. so he pretended he couldn't here her. after 5 mins she called back, he didn't answer, then again 4 mins later. this time he woke me to tell me she was calling. about that time she called again. I answered. This is the time i got nasty with her. She then says she is getting a restraining order against me. lol. words were exchanged and she hung up on me.
Now to address my marriage. like i said i was very sick and just starting to recover when all this happened. Then at the end when he was fired after 18 years at this company, he went and got his CDL's to drive a 18 wheeler. We went on the road together because so many people were sticking there nose's in our business. that way it was just him and me. we said when we went out that either we talk it out and save our marriage or we come back home and divorce. God worked a miracle on that truck. We feel so much in love I can not explain it. it took him till one week before we came home to tell me the truth in detail. I know that sounds strange but if i was going to be able to trust him then i had to know what happened. EVERYTHING. My husband broke and told me everything from start to finish with every detail. Keep in mind that i believe i said this before, but we were married for 21-22 years and together for 25. we were each other's first. I trusted him with my life. so this was so out of his nature. and i could see it in his face that he still had not told me the whole truth, he was holding something back. it was.....he didn't use a condom. He knew i would see that as gambling with my life. We are not the kind of people who do these things, we are the kind that talk about ones who do and how horrible it is. but then he did it. still he doesn't understand why. We came home, quit the job. Now he is unemployed but we are happier than ever. in all those years i never knew the man i have now. God answered my prayer's. please don't think he snowed me as you would have to know the both of us personally to understand. I lost what i was about to write when i said he got fired, he got fired because her, and to my knowledge , 5 other's set him up. I'm not one of those wife's that don't find out everything till after a divorce. I would never say what i am unless i was totally sure.
About her being divorced. She has been married several times and has kids by alot of different men. i did research her history on line. i even know where she went to school at. i don't know tho how long she has been a JW. what i know is that aprox. 6 years ago she did the same thing to another couple we were close to. Their marriage broke up and he married this women. (still offering herself to my husband). they were married about 5 years. We stopped being friends with him because he got on drugs bad when he married this women. i found out recently that he is HIV positive. Scare the u know what out of me. i was tested the next day after i found out he cheated and so was he. i have gave blood since then, and had my yearly last Friday. we did not catch anything. now my husband caught staff infection from her twice. but if we had anything then by now it would show, although i will continue to be checked. once she divorced again she went back after my husband and other married men. and as i said he faltered. and I've told the rest highlights in my first post.
as far as her pamphlets. sorry but that makes me sick. yes the very next day she was doing what she has always done and that is to pass her pamphlets out to people at work and then leave them on all the break room tables.
I don't have to worry about my husband but this person has got to be nuts, not working with a full deck. I guess she thinks i will be like all the other married men she has slept with and their wives just divorced them. I'm old school. If we ever came face to face after she has turned my life upside down and continues to do so I might black her eye. i know that is wrong. i have struggled with it and asked God to show me the path to take. But when it comes to my family i am so very over protecting. i live way back in the hills and i do so because i love the country and i love not having to live in that small town where everyone knows everyone. i like my seclusion and so does my husband.
and no her Xhusband is not a JW. Nor is anyone else i can find in her family one. But she has been a JW for as long as i can remember. i met her when i could work back in 98.
What bothers me is the fact she has hurt so many families by her cheating with married men. and i don't see her stopping since she believes she is doing nothing wrong. I don't want anyone to go through what my family has and what it has done to my children. I have a 21 year old son who can not keep a relationship now, and a 18 years old daughter who is doing things with boys that I sooooo taught her different. I believe she is just trying to hurt her daddy for the way he hurt us. I also believe that the only person in our family that needs counseling is my children. Then of course her as she seems to be a nut.
I have decided to write her pastor or church a letter telling in detail what she has done. maybe he can make her understand what she is doing is very wrong. maybe this can happen before she destroys another family.
Thank you all again for your replies, I pray her church can explain to her she is doing wrong because i sure can't.
i have a question for jw's.
i have a problem with a jw .
its been going on for a year now.
I have a question for JW's. I have a problem with a JW . Its been going on for a year now. It started with her kissing my husband at work. that went to her asking him to come to her home and fix her car. then it went to him being there at her home 2 nights a week for approx 6 weeks while we were going through things at home.
I am a sick person with a rare disease and was bed ridden for 2 years. this affair all started January 06 with the kiss at the same time i was recovering from my illness. to make things straight my husband is responsible for his actions. I do not defend what he did. Also he was 40 then and me 39.
To finish now... On march 27, 07 he went to her house after work to pick up a cordless drill he had loaned her. They also worked together, sorry left that out. She was tired of him just coming over and not doing anything sexual she voiced. Her son was not home that night and she threw herself on him.(my husband has been faithful up to this moment for 21 years, i know for a fact!) all came from his words that he had to confess to me, or i would leave him because he was not being honest and i could not rebuild a marriage with him unless we had honesty, She initiated a kiss which turned passionate very quick. They ended up having unprotected sex and he was so embarrassed about what he did that he didn't come home. I thought he had a wreck as i trusted him with all my being. I was never so scared in my life.
now to back trace this women who is a JW, she has offered her self to my husband for the last 7 years. He had a weak moment, actually a few of them. So on march 27, 07 he committed adultery. then the next night he went back again and this time his conscious would not allow him to become "active" to have sex. She started stripping him when he went in the door and started oral sex on him but he could not respond. then for the two weeks later they had many many fights at work where he said it was over and was ashamed as to what he did, she would demand that it would not be over!
The Monday after easter he went to her house again, but this time to make sure she understood it was over as we were going on a vacation for a few days to be alone and he had hopes to renew our marriage. She again starts kissing him and begging him not to leave her, he said he went ahead and allowed it and needs a physiologist to tell him why he didn't just leave. she then again attempts oral sex on him, again he had no sexual response. then he left. she continued her behavior at work toward him till Aug. 13th when he left the company after 18 years.. also each time he was with her she would ask about his wife. but apparently JW thinks its OK to commit adultery??????
I actually worked with this women before i got sick and we were friends with her xhusband. its been over a year later and she is still calling him. she told me that she knows in her heart that someday he will come back to her. first she never had him but for about 5 minutes and that was in sin in my religion. I and my husband are missionary Baptist. he has confessed every detail to me and our God and asked for forgiveness from God. We have the best relationship we have ever had in our whole life together. but she continues to call him, send messages and slander me. ME? I have done nothing. they sinned!
Now my question is ...........in the JW bible is it OK to commit adultery? because the very next day she was passing out her pamphlets at work as if nothing ever happened and has continued to be a JW, yet at the same time messing with my marriage hoping my husband will come back to her. This women is effecting my children. I know how my husband feels about what he did, he understand how i felt and we have excepted that a mistake happened and have moved on but children are different until they have a family of their own they won't understand. so please explain to me how JWs with all your rules would do this to my family? How could someone who is a JW do what she has and what she continues to do? and i would like to say that my my family is not the first she has hurt. she likes married men and had several affair's before my husband from men at work.
someone please explain this behavior of this JW to me, please.
Thank you,
Hurt